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	<title>Comments on: facts</title>
	<link>http://www.steeplesandpeople.com/blog/2007/02/02/facts/</link>
	<description>when faith like a child isn't enough</description>
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		<title>by: Steve Sjogren</title>
		<link>http://www.steeplesandpeople.com/blog/2007/02/02/facts/#comment-1717</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I like your blog! 

Would like to update you on some of the ongoing &quot;Original or Effective&quot; discussion.  Much of what was initially captured in the very brief piece in Pastors.com was not the full expression of my thoughts.  The piece was directed at church planters - not pastors who speak regularly, weekly.  I later wrote a cover story for Church Report that was about 2,000 words and did a decent job of explaining my thoughts on the topic.  

I am going to publish a follow up article on this in Pastors.com in the next few months to clarify this somewhat.  I agree with you - exploration, new thoughts, creativity is a great thing.  And yes, I am super pro women in ministry.  

Somehow my point has been &quot;lost in translation&quot; - initially when I started speaking 25 years ago I did use other's outlines / bits and pieces of their messages as any craftsman in any skillset will do as she/he follows the lead of their mentor.  My mentor encouraged me to do this - it was great counsel.  Still totally believe that is a wise way to approach the aquisition of a skillset whether it is skulpting, writing or speaking.  It is the very rare person who is a protege w/o a mentor - nearly unheard of in history.  

I have spoken as much as anyone you will ever meet in terms of actual times in front of an audience - between 10,000 and 12,000 times.  All that to say - I have learned a lot - still am about the craft of communicating orally.  I am more than honored that each weekend that many communicators lift my messages, hundreds of invented phrases - without being quoted.  If these people were teaching a graduate level course perhaps that would be appropriate, but a weekend church setting is not an academic setting - thus not necessary for such.

After so many millenia of human history it is pretty difficult to claim a seminal thought.  Maybe Solomon was right after all - &quot;There is nothing new under the sun...&quot;  

Steve Sjogren</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your blog! </p>
<p>Would like to update you on some of the ongoing &#8220;Original or Effective&#8221; discussion.  Much of what was initially captured in the very brief piece in Pastors.com was not the full expression of my thoughts.  The piece was directed at church planters - not pastors who speak regularly, weekly.  I later wrote a cover story for Church Report that was about 2,000 words and did a decent job of explaining my thoughts on the topic.  </p>
<p>I am going to publish a follow up article on this in Pastors.com in the next few months to clarify this somewhat.  I agree with you - exploration, new thoughts, creativity is a great thing.  And yes, I am super pro women in ministry.  </p>
<p>Somehow my point has been &#8220;lost in translation&#8221; - initially when I started speaking 25 years ago I did use other&#8217;s outlines / bits and pieces of their messages as any craftsman in any skillset will do as she/he follows the lead of their mentor.  My mentor encouraged me to do this - it was great counsel.  Still totally believe that is a wise way to approach the aquisition of a skillset whether it is skulpting, writing or speaking.  It is the very rare person who is a protege w/o a mentor - nearly unheard of in history.  </p>
<p>I have spoken as much as anyone you will ever meet in terms of actual times in front of an audience - between 10,000 and 12,000 times.  All that to say - I have learned a lot - still am about the craft of communicating orally.  I am more than honored that each weekend that many communicators lift my messages, hundreds of invented phrases - without being quoted.  If these people were teaching a graduate level course perhaps that would be appropriate, but a weekend church setting is not an academic setting - thus not necessary for such.</p>
<p>After so many millenia of human history it is pretty difficult to claim a seminal thought.  Maybe Solomon was right after all - &#8220;There is nothing new under the sun&#8230;&#8221;  </p>
<p>Steve Sjogren
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		<title>by: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.steeplesandpeople.com/blog/2007/02/02/facts/#comment-1452</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The next time I see you at the bus stop, I'm going to offer you a ride. 

I've sort of already played this already, &lt;a href=&quot;http://waspjerky.blogspot.com/2006/12/meme-pool.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;a&gt;. Want me to play again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The next time I see you at the bus stop, I&#8217;m going to offer you a ride. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve sort of already played this already, <a href="http://waspjerky.blogspot.com/2006/12/meme-pool.html" rel="nofollow">here<a>. Want me to play again?
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